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Yeah, I also had a feeling that there's too much build-up already. I'm not saying that build-up is bad, but he should probably keep something for later parts because right now everything looks extremely forced. By that logic, if all the build-up were applied right now, Asuna would instantly fall
Don't worry buddy, I think we'll be jerking off to hand holding in the next update. :ROFLMAO:
 
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kinglionheart

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Where is it confirmed it was the administrator's doing?
It was never confirmed Administrator helped with the Lustful Night but considering she more or less confirmed she made the drug that caused Kirito to rape Asuna and gave Inoda massage knowledge, people will pretty much assumed every Inoda good fortune is Administrator's interference. That is the danger of introducing a literal Deus ex Machina. Now we doubt everything that happens is Administrator's doing.
 
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It was never confirmed Administrator helped with the Lustful Night but considering she more or less confirmed she made the drug that caused Kirito to rape Asuna and gave Inoda massage knowledge, people will pretty much assumed every Inoda good fortune is Administrator's interference. That is the danger of introducing a literal Deus ex Machina. Now we doubt everything that happens is Administrator's doing.
Feels like a leap in logic at the moment, but I see I guess?
 

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Where is it confirmed it was the administrator's doing?
It was a question from me too ;)

I don't know, does anybody think that it was a good idea to add magic into the real world, anybody? I still hope that this is only a placeholder for now. He can't really be serious about this, can he? :)
 

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It was a question from me too ;)

I don't know, does anybody think that it was a good idea to add magic into the real world, anybody? I still hope that this is only a placeholder for now. He can't really be serious about this, can he? :)
It depends how magic or the administrator is used is what I'd assume. At the current moment it looks like the Administrator's character just likes to fuck around with Kirito and watch him. She mentions that the enlarged dick he got to have is a one-time use and it's an unforgettable experience. I don't know if this means she just wants to fuck with his head, since that situation is probably why he's acting more like a horn dog or questioning his size in that Kitchen scene.

In regards to the Inoda HJ scene, there's a ??? character that people might assume is the Administrator or god thing. The ??? also ends up having a ?!?!?!? reaction to Inoda being able to successfully massage Asuna's feet. So at the moment I have 0 clue as to what exactly is going on with their role, other than messing around with Kirito and being a recollection room.
 

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It was a question from me too ;)

I don't know, does anybody think that it was a good idea to add magic into the real world, anybody? I still hope that this is only a placeholder for now. He can't really be serious about this, can he? :)
Administrator pretty much is cemented as a key character, especially with the rec. room being part of the plot thanks to her, so I doubt she's gonna be removed. If anything, I'm wondering how is Fujino gonna justify a H-scene with her, because there is no way he made her model and character if he's NOT gonna have her have sex too XP

It depends how magic or the administrator is used is what I'd assume. At the current moment it looks like the Administrator's character just likes to fuck around with Kirito and watch him. She mentions that the enlarged dick he got to have is a one-time use and it's an unforgettable experience. I don't know if this means she just wants to fuck with his head, since that situation is probably why he's acting more like a horn dog or questioning his size in that Kitchen scene.

In regards to the Inoda HJ scene, there's a ??? character that people might assume is the Administrator or god thing. The ??? also ends up having a ?!?!?!? reaction to Inoda being able to successfully massage Asuna's feet. So at the moment I have 0 clue as to what exactly is going on with their role, other than messing around with Kirito and being a recollection room.
That last bit is because Inoda was basically 'praying' in despair at that point, then the mysterious '???' (Administrator) happens and he magically gets the knowledge he needs...but then rather than "Thank God" (As he was 'praying'), he gives HIMSELF all the credit for managing it, which is why the "?!?!?!?" reaction happens, basically Admin. was furious at him disregarding 'divine help'. If you talk to her in the rec. room that night, among what she says there is that humans are ungrateful XP
 
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Administrator pretty much is cemented as a key character, especially with the rec. room being part of the plot thanks to her, so I doubt she's gonna be removed. If anything, I'm wondering how is Fujino gonna justify a H-scene with her, because there is no way he made her model and character if he's NOT gonna have her have sex too XP



That last bit is because Inoda was basically 'praying' in despair at that point, then the mysterious '???' (Administrator) happens and he magically gets the knowledge he needs...but then rather than "Thank God" (As he was 'praying'), he gives HIMSELF all the credit for managing it, which is why the "?!?!?!?" reaction happens, basically Admin. was furious at him disregarding 'divine help'. If you talk to her in the rec. room that night, among what she says there is that humans are ungrateful XP
I thought the Administrator just said humans are arrogant that they think they're above god. Cause they're just talking about technology, and the church confession stuff that was going on right? But I guess that means they're ungrateful. I also thought the ?!?!?!? was more at being surprised that Inoda could do it. But I guess maybe he got help.
 

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I thought the Administrator just said humans are arrogant that they think they're above god. Cause they're just talking about technology, and the church confession stuff that was going on right? But I guess that means they're ungrateful. I also thought the ?!?!?!? was more at being surprised that Inoda could do it. But I guess maybe he got help.
Yeah, I simplified it, but I'm pretty sure she was making a reference in general, because we technically can't see the Inoda scene until we arrive at the Rec. Room that night but it had already happened. The "?!?" reaction can't really be surprise at Inoda being able to do it 'cause that would imply it was from someone normal there watching, which would make no sense as there was nobody there at all, therefore it only makes sense it was Admin. directly reacting negatively to Inoda's leap of logic that he somehow suddenly was able to do it because he was awesome XP
 

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Yeah, I simplified it, but I'm pretty sure she was making a reference in general, because we technically can't see the Inoda scene until we arrive at the Rec. Room that night but it had already happened. The "?!?" reaction can't really be surprise at Inoda being able to do it 'cause that would imply it was from someone normal there watching, which would make no sense as there was nobody there at all, therefore it only makes sense it was Admin. directly reacting negatively to Inoda's leap of logic that he somehow suddenly was able to do it because he was awesome XP
Hmm, it kinda feels like lazy writing to me and makes Inoda less interesting as a character. You can then argue that he didn't really earn Asuna himself at key moments. He literally got help from divine interference. I don't know, man, it feels off.
 
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Hmm, it kinda feels like lazy writing to me and makes Inoda less interesting as a character. You can then argue that he didn't really earn Asuna himself at key moments. He literally got help from divine interference. I don't know, man, it feels off.
"Everyone's already helping Inoda. God himself is helping Inoda. Already Kirito is degenerating himself to help Inoda. I think a little more and the president of FOG will come out and help Inoda, Biden will fly in and help Inoda. Asuna will soon say, "Fuck me already, why don't you fuck me?" "
 
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Hmm, it kinda feels like lazy writing to me and makes Inoda less interesting as a character. You can then argue that he didn't really earn Asuna himself at key moments. He literally got help from divine interference. I don't know, man, it feels off.
Makes sense, but I'm able to ignore it easily since everything else in their conversation was all on him doing his best to manipulate Asuna to be receptive to him. But I get the lazy writing, granted the other scenario is just that without the god he got lucky which is just about as lazy. I can only guess that it's just to skip wasting time showing that Inoda learned how to do this, which can become extremely iffy if used on a bigger/larger scale.
 

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Hmm, it kinda feels like lazy writing to me and makes Inoda less interesting as a character. You can then argue that he didn't really earn Asuna himself at key moments. He literally got help from divine interference. I don't know, man, it feels off.
Well, yeah, but since the moment her character was introduced things were already guaranteed to go this way, that's what happens when you put a 'God' to suddenly act as a plot-device XP Maybe I don't mind that much because I was never really as invested in the main story as almost everyone else is, but it was very obvious Administrator/Quinella was gonna be used to alter the plot ever since she was introduced, I was just a bit surprised myself with how blatant it was this update (Between the 'magical horny healing drug' and then basically divine intervention to get Inoda medical massage skills). The issue is that when she HAS been shown to do this, people starts retroactively wondering if she hasn't been the cause for all these things to happen, which I don't think was Fujino's intention, I would guess he only really meant to say she was the reason shit happened when it's blatantly obvious (In that HJ scene with the '???' text making it quite obvious), but that's how many have started to think and they don't really like it :O
 

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Well, yeah, but since the moment her character was introduced things were already guaranteed to go this way, that's what happens when you put a 'God' to suddenly act as a plot-device XP Maybe I don't mind that much because I was never really as invested in the main story as almost everyone else is, but it was very obvious Administrator/Quinella was gonna be used to alter the plot ever since she was introduced, I was just a bit surprised myself with how blatant it was this update (Between the 'magical horny healing drug' and then basically divine intervention to get Inoda medical massage skills). The issue is that when she HAS been shown to do this, people starts retroactively wondering if she hasn't been the cause for all these things to happen, which I don't think was Fujino's intention, I would guess he only really meant to say she was the reason shit happened when it's blatantly obvious (In that HJ scene with the '???' text making it quite obvious), but that's how many have started to think and they don't really like it :O
Yeah, that's true. My first thought was, well, that explains how a virgin who should not have any experience is a sex god :)

Well, I guess it is at least some explanation :D
 

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Yeah, that's true. My first thought was, well, that explains how a virgin who should not have any experience is a sex god :)
Yep, that's basically the issue, Fujino probably didn't intend for it to be taken that way, but people are thinking now that Administrator retroactively could be the cause of all of Inoda's good luck and any other incongruent thing of the plot, which would make everything lazy writing, something that most likely was never his intention XP
 

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Yep, that's basically the issue, Fujino probably didn't intend for it to be taken that way, but people are thinking now that Administrator retroactively could be the cause of all of Inoda's good luck and any other incongruent thing of the plot, which would make everything lazy writing, something that most likely was never his intention XP
I remember back in Part 1 I thought maybe Yui was the one who gave Inoda the presence concealment. The ability was so OP and no one else could get it so I thought only a digital genie/god could be responsible. Of course there was no reason for Yui to ruin Asuna and Kirito's relationship but no one else I thought could have the power to give Inoda the ability. Then out of nowhere Administrator appears. If Fujino had kept her powers to FOG only I could still accept it. But if she can affect the real world then EVERYTHING that happens could be because of her and that just cheapens everything Inoda does and everything Asuna feels.

If Administrator was just a easy way to advance the story due to his toxic fan base then I feel for Fujino. He is like everyone else dependent on other people's money so I don't blame him for his choice.
 
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It's funny, the more Fujino tries to please some people the worse and wierder part 2 gets. Part 1 was great. They do good stuff when left to cook without interference. Part 2 should probably be redone from the start at some point.

Every update, Fujino makes the scope broader and broader because people want Sugu scenes or Kirito scenes, adding more and more side characters and side stories while lagging on the main content of the Ino/Asu NTR. And when we do get Ino/Asu scenes, it's wierd because Fujino has been trying to paint Inoda as less of a scumbag because some of their fans 'see themselves in him', which makes it less of dirty bastard NTR and more into and awkward nerd-cheating love story.

I'm looking forward to the point where we're over the hump of this endless 'setting up for the future'. Part 2's reset on the relationship remains a mistake.
 
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redoing all of Part 2 will be for the best, but i doubt fujino will do that...

and my oppinion still the same, those entire shrine including the administrator thing is the biggest mistake from this part... not only its ruining the sense of misteries that u got from part 1 (wtf do u meant i need to unlock some scene if i want to watch it? and its not like ive seen even a glimpse of it happened in real world before that), but also becoz its now affecting the overall story progression...

inoda's blog for example can be used for more interesting way to replace sns function from part 1, but no, u can just see it in those shit shrine now, wtf...

im still not played the latest update yet, and seeing comment here im more hesitant to do so... but if fujino really gonna make kirito more pathetic and give him more handicap just to make inoda looks great, than im aggree with some comment here... its no more ntr, it will be just another wrong love story or at most a cheating story... imo ntr should just corrupt the body with pleasure, even if the heart got affected later on its should be becoz of the pleasure itself...
 

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and my oppinion still the same, those entire shrine including the administrator thing is the biggest mistake from this part... not only its ruining the sense of misteries that u got from part 1 (wtf do u meant i need to unlock some scene if i want to watch it? and its not like ive seen even a glimpse of it happened in real world before that), but also becoz its now affecting the overall story progression...
I won't say the shrine is the worst mistake. I actually think integrating the recollection room as a dream area you visit is a really cool way to handle it. But you're also half right; in part 1 we would be able to catch some scenes in progress, even if we got a deliberately misleading angle. For example, the handjob at Inoda's that you catch through the window, or the nurse office handjob, or him groping Asuna's tits. Kirito saw one angle, but we could look at the true angle through the computer. We don't get 'peeks' anymore, and that's part of the magic of part 1 that Fujino is missing from part 2 so far. Everything happens offscreen now. Even when Kirito was passing out after fighting with the part 1 bosses, we'd see a little bit of Inoda all over Asuna before blacking out. In part 2, we got the maokai fight and saw fucking nothing.
 
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We should stop trying to define NTR at this point because everyone has a different take on it. At this point, we should admit that this is a corruption game with splash of NTR here n there, which may or may not increase. Either way, I don't find much to say till we are atleast halfway through the game. You're all just jumping on the gun on too quickly. Meanwhile, there's dev like stopper who has just tease us about NTR for years and still claim it to be NTR game and provide update once a year. Atleast, fujino is giving updates. Whether people like it or not is a different thing.
 
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